Sam Smith: “I want to isolate myself more” – Music News

Sam Smith joins Zane Lowe in the studio on Apple Music 1 to discuss new music ahead of their fourth studio album, “Gloria.” Sam tells Apple Music about the weak early feelings associated with releasing new music around the world, mixing genres, and the desire to constantly reinvent oneself, to embrace isolation, the desire to raise children, to live homophobia, working with Max Martin and the crucial advice they received from Robyne.

Sam Smith talks to Apple Music about the downsides of releasing new music to the world…

I have a hollow every time. I become weak. I almost get angry. I’m going to look like a drama queen, but it’s kind of like a death. Because they’re mine and they belong to me and I sat with them and loved them and imagined how people would listen to them or whether people would like them, then you put it there- down and it’s not yours anymore. And, people take it and people are rude.

Why they don’t believe in guilty pleasures…

I don’t believe in guilty pleasures. I’m above that. The last album, I passed that. There is no such thing. There are only pleasures.

About being their own brand…

I sent “Unholy” to my team, and everyone asked me “What is it?” They were confused. They said, “What’s the brand? What are you trying to do here?” It’s not “stay with me”. It’s not this, it’s not that. Everyone is trying to make sense of it. Well, I said, “I’m the mark.” That’s what I said. I am the mark. And I, just like my sex really, am everything. I can be anything. I can sing whatever I want. And I want to build on that with my genres.

Mix genres and constantly reinvent yourself…

But I also come from Mariah and Whitney and George and all those gender-jumping people, and also Rihanna and Beyonce. If you listen to Rihanna’s early records, there were all different genres compiled together in such beautiful ways. And I love that. I like to be, that’s where my Madonna jumps. I always wanted to be an artist who changes every time. This is the dream. Yeah, I want to release my opera album when I’m 40.

On their family being tired of their fame in the first place…

Everyone is very supportive. My amazing family because they were petrified the minute I became famous. It was not a good thing. It was a scary thing. They were afraid of losing me, of changing me. And the people around you who want something from you, let you hear those horror stories. I think it’s because of Winehouse and what happened with Amy and what happened with Whitney…

On accepting isolation…

I am more and more in the countryside. And my goal is that throughout my life, I want to become more isolated. I just want to live one day in the Scottish mountains. It’s like my dream. So, for me, getting out of town was important. Having a dog, stuff like that really helped ground me.

On the desire to raise children…

Sam Smith: Yes, of course. Yeah. Once I’ve done all the traveling, I’d like to do that, yeah.

Zane Lowe: Ideally with someone you love, right?

Sam Smith: Oh, that would be wonderful. Yeah. But I can also do it alone.

On the difficulty of being queer and their experiences of homophobia…

Everything is progressing wonderfully. But there are some pretty hard realities to swallow when it comes to country stats, where it’s still illegal and it’s hard. It’s always hard to be queer. There is still a backlash. They still say things to me on the street, even now. The weirdest thing is you can be famous, you can be a pop star and you still get it. Because I thought I would be a pop star and never be sworn at again. I would never have homophobia. I would never experience it if I became a star. And then it happens and it’s still there. He is always there. So yes, it just takes courage. It really is. And I think you’re meant to be, you need to come out about your homosexuality immediately, I think, if you become gay and you’re gay. We have to talk about everything. And I went into this because I have now realized how powerful it is. Oh my God. And there are children who need it. They need us to talk about it.

Working with Max Martin…

Oh, just really a servant of music. His whole life is in the service of music. If there was a God, music is his God. That’s how I feel when I talk to him.

On the advice they received from Robyn…

I always refer to Robyn. I think Robyn is amazing. Robyn is just taking her time. And she told me once. I don’t know if she’ll ever remember this but she met me when I was 20 and I was sitting in Germany in a canteen…and she came and sat next to me and she m I just said, ‘Take your time.’ And then she left. It was an angel who was coming to give me some very nice advice. not take my time. I do not have time. I have to release some music.” And I only just realized what she meant. So wise, so wise.

On their relationship with modern music and love of Shazam…

I still love music but with music it’s weird. I never go out to find him. I let him come to me. So whether you hear something on the street or someone randomly plays it in the car, Shazam is like my best friend in that sense. I love this Shazam.

Reconnecting with the fans and ignoring the noise…

For me, it’s about my music and my fans. I had to reconnect with my fans and realize that these are my people and I’m doing this for them because the charts and stuff, people get weird. I had to exercise it; don’t read comments, don’t get involved in that side of things because it doesn’t really exist to be honest. It’s all wrong. And even with all the price discounts and all that, you learn as you go that’s not accurate either. It’s all just a game.

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